1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 -== [ www.OpenSubtitles.com ] ==- 2 00:01:08,177 --> 00:01:10,012 You didn't wake me. 3 00:01:11,430 --> 00:01:12,598 You were sleeping. 4 00:01:12,723 --> 00:01:15,476 It was because you can't bear to have breakfast with me. 5 00:01:15,768 --> 00:01:17,144 I've boiled you an egg. 6 00:01:17,269 --> 00:01:20,147 I'd hardly have done that if I didn't want to see you. 7 00:01:20,981 --> 00:01:22,399 Tea or coffee? 8 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:25,444 Does any woman ever stay long enough to find out 9 00:01:25,569 --> 00:01:27,446 what the hell goes on in your head? 10 00:01:28,906 --> 00:01:30,574 What are you doing tonight? 11 00:01:31,449 --> 00:01:33,076 I'm seeing my daughter. 12 00:01:33,743 --> 00:01:35,078 Your daughter? 13 00:01:35,286 --> 00:01:36,788 You've kept very quiet about her. 14 00:01:37,038 --> 00:01:38,206 Have I? 15 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:41,918 Well, she's been abroad for a year. 16 00:01:44,045 --> 00:01:44,921 Did you say tea? 17 00:01:46,422 --> 00:01:47,757 I'm going. 18 00:01:50,969 --> 00:01:53,012 Have fun with your daughter. 19 00:02:24,668 --> 00:02:26,253 Tickets, please. 20 00:02:28,547 --> 00:02:29,798 Tickets. 21 00:02:35,721 --> 00:02:37,180 Tickets. 22 00:03:44,288 --> 00:03:45,623 Hey, you! 23 00:04:13,275 --> 00:04:15,110 Your feet. 24 00:04:34,753 --> 00:04:36,088 Hey, kid. 25 00:04:37,881 --> 00:04:38,882 Up, up. 26 00:04:41,802 --> 00:04:43,262 It's all right. 27 00:04:52,938 --> 00:04:54,023 There now. 28 00:04:55,065 --> 00:04:56,275 Where do you live? 29 00:05:01,488 --> 00:05:02,281 It's just up here. 30 00:05:03,365 --> 00:05:05,451 I'll be fine now. Thank you. 31 00:05:07,453 --> 00:05:08,662 Goodbye. 32 00:05:18,005 --> 00:05:19,340 Look after yourself. 33 00:05:25,762 --> 00:05:27,680 I'm worried about him. 34 00:05:28,181 --> 00:05:29,307 He looks terrible. 35 00:05:29,432 --> 00:05:31,726 The boy's saying he doesn't need a doctor. 36 00:05:31,851 --> 00:05:32,518 He does. 37 00:05:32,644 --> 00:05:34,479 - I don't need a doctor. - Good, then. 38 00:05:34,604 --> 00:05:35,313 Peter! 39 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:38,316 We're not going to argue about this. 40 00:05:40,902 --> 00:05:42,320 Remind me, 41 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:44,072 how old are you now? 42 00:05:44,238 --> 00:05:45,865 Michael's fifteen. 43 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:47,659 It's scarlet fever. 44 00:05:48,826 --> 00:05:51,621 He'll be in bed for several months at least. 45 00:05:52,622 --> 00:05:54,374 Complete isolation. 46 00:05:54,999 --> 00:05:57,377 Emily, keep away, he's contagious. 47 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:00,964 Emily! 48 00:06:17,854 --> 00:06:19,564 How are you feeling? 49 00:06:20,941 --> 00:06:22,192 Better. 50 00:06:24,027 --> 00:06:25,445 I meant to tell you, 51 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,240 the day I got ill a woman helped me. 52 00:06:28,699 --> 00:06:29,992 She helped you? 53 00:06:30,575 --> 00:06:32,577 Yes, she brought me home. 54 00:06:33,787 --> 00:06:34,913 Do you have her address? 55 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:12,575 Hello? 56 00:07:13,576 --> 00:07:14,577 Yes? 57 00:07:40,101 --> 00:07:41,394 I brought you these flowers 58 00:07:41,645 --> 00:07:43,229 to say thank you. 59 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,398 Put them over there in the sink. 60 00:08:07,379 --> 00:08:08,880 I've been in bed 61 00:08:09,005 --> 00:08:09,714 for three months. 62 00:08:09,923 --> 00:08:11,299 You are better now? 63 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:13,134 Yes, thank you. 64 00:08:14,511 --> 00:08:16,012 Have you always been weak? 65 00:08:16,137 --> 00:08:18,306 No, I've never been sick before. 66 00:08:19,724 --> 00:08:21,434 It's incredibly boring. 67 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:23,811 There's nothing to do. 68 00:08:24,645 --> 00:08:26,188 I couldn't even be bothered to read. 69 00:08:31,068 --> 00:08:31,735 Well, 70 00:08:32,111 --> 00:08:33,529 thank you again. 71 00:08:35,030 --> 00:08:36,031 Wait. 72 00:08:37,157 --> 00:08:39,410 I'll walk with you, I have to go to work. 73 00:08:43,455 --> 00:08:44,915 Wait in the hall while I change. 74 00:11:34,664 --> 00:11:36,499 There are two more buckets downstairs. 75 00:11:36,666 --> 00:11:38,460 You can fill them and bring them up. 76 00:12:06,404 --> 00:12:07,822 You look ridiculous. 77 00:12:07,948 --> 00:12:09,741 Look at you, kid. 78 00:12:13,077 --> 00:12:14,954 You can't go home like that. 79 00:12:18,749 --> 00:12:19,625 Take off your clothes. 80 00:12:20,834 --> 00:12:22,628 I'll run you a bath. 81 00:12:43,732 --> 00:12:45,985 Do you always take a bath in your trousers? 82 00:12:59,497 --> 00:13:00,748 It's all right. 83 00:13:00,873 --> 00:13:01,749 I won't look. 84 00:14:08,607 --> 00:14:10,192 I'll get you a towel. 85 00:15:11,544 --> 00:15:13,504 So that's why you came back. 86 00:15:31,605 --> 00:15:33,273 You're so beautiful. 87 00:15:35,442 --> 00:15:37,193 What are you talking about? 88 00:15:47,287 --> 00:15:49,122 Look at me, kid. 89 00:15:53,209 --> 00:15:54,711 Slowly. 90 00:15:55,295 --> 00:15:56,796 Slowly. 91 00:16:34,875 --> 00:16:36,627 You've inconvenienced your mother. 92 00:16:37,294 --> 00:16:39,004 How many more times? I said I'm sorry. 93 00:16:40,756 --> 00:16:41,674 You scared her. 94 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:45,302 I got lost, that's all. That's why I was late. Can I have some more? 95 00:16:45,511 --> 00:16:47,887 How can anyone get lost in their own town? 96 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,974 I was going to the castle and ended up at the sports field. 97 00:16:51,099 --> 00:16:53,059 - They're in opposite directions. - It's none of your business. 98 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:54,227 He's lying. 99 00:16:54,394 --> 00:16:55,895 He's not lying. 100 00:16:57,063 --> 00:16:58,606 Michael never lies. 101 00:17:02,652 --> 00:17:04,904 I want to go back to school tomorrow. 102 00:17:05,071 --> 00:17:08,199 - You need another three weeks. - Well, I'm going. 103 00:17:08,992 --> 00:17:10,076 Peter! 104 00:17:53,535 --> 00:17:54,661 Like this? 105 00:17:55,787 --> 00:17:56,747 That's right. 106 00:18:02,502 --> 00:18:04,171 Not so fast. 107 00:18:19,852 --> 00:18:21,228 It's all right. 108 00:18:22,271 --> 00:18:23,814 Do it again. 109 00:18:47,421 --> 00:18:48,881 What's your name? 110 00:18:49,966 --> 00:18:50,883 What? 111 00:18:51,175 --> 00:18:52,468 Your name? 112 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:54,595 Why do you want to know? 113 00:18:55,596 --> 00:18:57,598 I've been here three times. 114 00:18:58,766 --> 00:19:00,101 I want to know your name. 115 00:19:00,726 --> 00:19:02,019 What's wrong with that? 116 00:19:03,354 --> 00:19:04,813 Nothing, kid. 117 00:19:05,522 --> 00:19:07,565 There's nothing wrong with that. 118 00:19:08,483 --> 00:19:09,317 It's Hanna. 119 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:11,444 You looked so suspicious. 120 00:19:14,406 --> 00:19:15,657 What's yours, kid? 121 00:19:15,991 --> 00:19:17,075 Michael. 122 00:19:17,867 --> 00:19:18,785 Michael? 123 00:19:21,246 --> 00:19:23,498 So I'm with a Michael. 124 00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:26,251 Hanna. 125 00:19:27,043 --> 00:19:30,213 The notion of secrecy is central 126 00:19:30,338 --> 00:19:32,132 to Western literature. 127 00:19:33,174 --> 00:19:33,842 You may say 128 00:19:34,009 --> 00:19:36,303 the whole idea of character 129 00:19:36,803 --> 00:19:38,388 is defined 130 00:19:39,055 --> 00:19:39,973 by people 131 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:44,686 holding specific information which, for various reasons, 132 00:19:45,604 --> 00:19:49,149 sometimes perverse, sometimes noble, 133 00:19:49,607 --> 00:19:52,735 they are determined not to disclose. 134 00:20:05,581 --> 00:20:08,375 You never tell me what you've been studying. 135 00:20:09,376 --> 00:20:10,961 Studying? 136 00:20:12,463 --> 00:20:13,881 At school. 137 00:20:17,885 --> 00:20:19,929 Do you learn languages? 138 00:20:20,304 --> 00:20:21,472 Yes. 139 00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:24,600 What languages? 140 00:20:25,809 --> 00:20:26,852 Latin. 141 00:20:31,023 --> 00:20:32,608 Say something in Latin. 142 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:37,153 "Quo, quo scelesti ruitis?" 143 00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:40,531 "Aut cur dexteris aptantur enses conditi?" 144 00:20:40,823 --> 00:20:42,033 It's Horace. 145 00:20:44,285 --> 00:20:45,578 It's wonderful. 146 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:48,414 Do you want some Greek? 147 00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:04,055 "Oi men ippeon stroton oi de pesedon" 148 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:06,599 "ego de ken otto tis eratai". 149 00:21:07,892 --> 00:21:09,185 It's beautiful. 150 00:21:09,978 --> 00:21:11,604 How can you tell? 151 00:21:12,689 --> 00:21:15,858 How do you know when you've no idea what it means? 152 00:21:19,362 --> 00:21:21,238 What are you studying in German? 153 00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:22,864 I'm studying a play. 154 00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:28,245 By Gotthold Ephraim Lessing. Have you heard of him? 155 00:21:28,579 --> 00:21:29,788 It's called Emilia Galotti. 156 00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:32,791 You can read it. 157 00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:35,544 I'd rather listen to you. 158 00:21:36,211 --> 00:21:37,337 All right. 159 00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,641 "Act 1. Scene 1". 160 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:52,686 "The setting: One of the prince's chambers". 161 00:21:53,437 --> 00:21:54,730 "The prince". 162 00:21:56,231 --> 00:21:57,691 I'm not very good. 163 00:21:58,859 --> 00:21:59,860 Go on. 164 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:03,739 "Complaints," 165 00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:05,991 "nothing but complaints". 166 00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:10,286 "For goodness' sake, is there anything in life but work?" 167 00:22:11,162 --> 00:22:14,040 "Just imagine that people actually envy us". 168 00:22:16,167 --> 00:22:18,169 You're good at it, aren't you? 169 00:22:20,755 --> 00:22:22,298 Good at what? 170 00:22:26,469 --> 00:22:27,678 Reading. 171 00:22:32,308 --> 00:22:33,434 What's funny? 172 00:22:36,395 --> 00:22:38,064 I didn't think I was good at anything. 173 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:07,401 What are you doing? 174 00:24:07,985 --> 00:24:09,278 What is this? 175 00:24:09,695 --> 00:24:11,572 Why did you behave as if you didn't know me? 176 00:24:12,448 --> 00:24:15,409 You didn't want to know me. You saw I was in the first carriage. 177 00:24:15,659 --> 00:24:17,036 So why did you sit in the second? 178 00:24:17,161 --> 00:24:18,996 What did you think I was doing? 179 00:24:19,121 --> 00:24:20,664 Why the hell did you think I was there? 180 00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:21,790 How should I know? 181 00:24:22,499 --> 00:24:25,001 Now, I've been working, I need a bath 182 00:24:25,585 --> 00:24:27,378 and I'd like to be by myself. 183 00:24:28,129 --> 00:24:29,547 Would you please leave? 184 00:24:34,969 --> 00:24:36,846 I didn't mean to upset you. 185 00:24:39,682 --> 00:24:41,851 You don't have the power to upset me. 186 00:24:43,019 --> 00:24:45,063 You don't matter enough to upset me. 187 00:26:03,014 --> 00:26:04,432 I don't know what to say. 188 00:26:07,143 --> 00:26:09,520 I've never been with a woman before. 189 00:26:13,357 --> 00:26:15,318 We've been together four weeks. 190 00:26:17,486 --> 00:26:19,030 I can't live without you. 191 00:26:19,655 --> 00:26:20,907 I can't. 192 00:26:21,574 --> 00:26:23,492 Even the thought of it kills me. 193 00:26:30,124 --> 00:26:33,252 I sat in the second carriage because I thought you might kiss me. 194 00:26:34,629 --> 00:26:37,882 Kid, you thought we could make love in a tram? 195 00:26:43,511 --> 00:26:45,513 Is it true what you said? 196 00:26:46,181 --> 00:26:47,766 That I don't matter to you? 197 00:27:01,321 --> 00:27:02,155 Do you forgive me? 198 00:27:09,329 --> 00:27:10,538 Do you love me? 199 00:27:28,889 --> 00:27:30,182 Do you have a book? 200 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,226 Yes, I have. 201 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:34,395 I took one with me this morning. 202 00:27:36,105 --> 00:27:37,231 What is it? 203 00:27:37,648 --> 00:27:39,191 The Odyssey, by Homer. 204 00:27:39,608 --> 00:27:40,734 It's my homework. 205 00:27:44,071 --> 00:27:46,490 We're changing the order we do things. 206 00:27:47,157 --> 00:27:50,411 Read to me first, kid, then we make love. 207 00:27:56,125 --> 00:27:57,793 "The Odyssey, by Homer". 208 00:27:58,335 --> 00:27:59,628 What's an odyssey? 209 00:28:00,004 --> 00:28:01,839 It's a journey, he sets out on a journey. 210 00:28:02,798 --> 00:28:03,799 Good. 211 00:28:08,387 --> 00:28:12,016 "Sing to me of the man, Muse, the man of twists and turns" 212 00:28:12,141 --> 00:28:14,350 "driven time and again off course" 213 00:28:14,475 --> 00:28:16,769 "once he had plundered the hallowed heights of Troy". 214 00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:18,062 Come here. 215 00:28:25,945 --> 00:28:28,323 "He pressed her hand to his lips". 216 00:28:29,616 --> 00:28:31,034 "She was dead," 217 00:28:32,243 --> 00:28:35,079 "and past all help, or need of it". 218 00:28:43,671 --> 00:28:44,672 "I poked into the place" 219 00:28:44,797 --> 00:28:47,592 "and came to a little open patch as big as a bedroom" 220 00:28:48,927 --> 00:28:50,595 "all hung around with vines" 221 00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:52,472 "and found a man lying there asleep." 222 00:28:53,181 --> 00:28:56,225 "And, by jinks, it was my old Jim!" 223 00:28:57,352 --> 00:29:00,395 "When you landed, I reck'ned I could ketch up wid you" 224 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,064 'doubt havin' to shout at you" 225 00:29:02,522 --> 00:29:04,316 "but when I see dat house," 226 00:29:04,441 --> 00:29:06,193 "I begin to go slow..." 227 00:29:06,485 --> 00:29:07,861 "Lady Chatterley" 228 00:29:08,028 --> 00:29:10,864 "felt his naked flesh against her" 229 00:29:11,073 --> 00:29:12,950 "as he came into her". 230 00:29:14,451 --> 00:29:18,121 - "For a moment he was still..." - This is disgusting. 231 00:29:20,290 --> 00:29:22,000 Where did you get this? 232 00:29:22,501 --> 00:29:24,711 I borrowed it from someone at school. 233 00:29:25,379 --> 00:29:27,130 You should be ashamed. 234 00:29:30,801 --> 00:29:31,969 Go on. 235 00:29:33,553 --> 00:29:36,473 "Billions of blue blistering barnacles" 236 00:29:36,598 --> 00:29:39,059 "in a thundering typhoon! It is water!" 237 00:29:39,601 --> 00:29:41,311 "What did you expect it to be?" 238 00:29:41,645 --> 00:29:43,063 - Whiskey. - "Whiskey," 239 00:29:43,188 --> 00:29:45,273 "by thunder, whiskey". 240 00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:46,983 "Whiskey?" 241 00:29:47,650 --> 00:29:50,945 - "Come now, captain..." - That's enough for today, kid. 242 00:29:52,363 --> 00:29:53,781 I was wondering. 243 00:29:54,031 --> 00:29:55,992 Could you get some time off? 244 00:29:56,284 --> 00:29:58,119 Maybe we could go on a trip. 245 00:29:58,953 --> 00:30:00,371 What sort of trip? 246 00:30:00,496 --> 00:30:03,332 A cycling holiday. Just two days. 247 00:30:08,379 --> 00:30:11,841 I've got a guide book. I've worked out the route, look. 248 00:30:13,426 --> 00:30:14,885 What do you think? 249 00:30:18,264 --> 00:30:20,641 I think you like planning, don't you? 250 00:30:37,032 --> 00:30:38,700 "I'm not frightened". 251 00:30:40,493 --> 00:30:41,703 "I'm not frightened of anything". 252 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:45,332 "The more I suffer," 253 00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:48,043 "the more I love". 254 00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:51,046 "Danger will only increase my love". 255 00:30:52,088 --> 00:30:54,925 "It will sharpen it. Forgive its bias". 256 00:30:56,718 --> 00:30:58,428 "I'll be the only angel you'll need". 257 00:30:59,554 --> 00:31:02,974 "You will leave life even more beautiful than you entered it". 258 00:31:03,308 --> 00:31:06,895 "Heaven will take you back, and look at you and say:" 259 00:31:07,187 --> 00:31:10,023 "Only one thing can make us so complete". 260 00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:11,733 "And that thing" 261 00:31:11,983 --> 00:31:12,984 "is love". 262 00:31:39,301 --> 00:31:41,178 - Hello. - Hello. 263 00:31:48,185 --> 00:31:50,187 - Excuse me. - Hello. 264 00:31:51,272 --> 00:31:52,982 Do you know what you'd like? 265 00:31:56,944 --> 00:31:58,362 What are you having? 266 00:31:59,405 --> 00:32:02,657 - You order, I'll have what you have. - OK. 267 00:32:05,201 --> 00:32:05,994 Two frankfurters, 268 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:07,996 two potato salads, and two beers, please. 269 00:32:19,007 --> 00:32:20,174 - Thank you. - Thank you. 270 00:32:20,883 --> 00:32:23,553 - I hope your mother was happy. - Thank you. 271 00:32:24,262 --> 00:32:26,431 She enjoyed her meal very much. 272 00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:43,114 Come on. 273 00:32:59,671 --> 00:33:02,424 Here, let me show you where we're going. 274 00:33:04,426 --> 00:33:06,053 It's OK, kid, 275 00:33:06,970 --> 00:33:08,847 I don't want to know. 276 00:34:59,414 --> 00:35:00,582 What are you doing? 277 00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:01,875 I'm writing a poem. 278 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:03,251 About you. 279 00:35:06,378 --> 00:35:07,671 Can I hear it? 280 00:35:07,963 --> 00:35:09,089 It's not ready. 281 00:35:10,174 --> 00:35:11,634 I'll read it to you one day. 282 00:36:28,501 --> 00:36:30,628 - Morning, Hendrick. - Morning, Mr. Berg. 283 00:36:30,795 --> 00:36:32,922 - You're in court 306. - Thank you. 284 00:36:33,131 --> 00:36:35,174 - You all right, Michael? - I'm fine. 285 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,135 - Hurry, you know what she's like. - Yeah, I'll see you later. 286 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:39,845 - Good luck. - Thanks. 287 00:36:41,555 --> 00:36:42,973 Please stand. 288 00:36:47,728 --> 00:36:48,562 Please sit down. 289 00:36:53,775 --> 00:36:55,444 The defendant, please. 290 00:37:07,331 --> 00:37:08,498 They're coming. 291 00:37:13,795 --> 00:37:14,796 Hello. 292 00:37:15,047 --> 00:37:16,006 Hello. 293 00:37:17,883 --> 00:37:19,676 - Did you see that? - Good morning, ladies. 294 00:37:19,801 --> 00:37:23,846 Gentleman, welcome your new fellow students and be courteous. 295 00:37:24,555 --> 00:37:25,681 Sit down. 296 00:37:26,057 --> 00:37:26,974 Hello. 297 00:37:28,726 --> 00:37:30,937 - My name's Sophie. - I'm Michael. 298 00:37:32,104 --> 00:37:35,233 The Odyssey. Take out your books. 299 00:37:39,153 --> 00:37:42,615 Everyone believes Homer's subject is homecoming. 300 00:37:42,782 --> 00:37:43,699 In fact, The Odyssey 301 00:37:43,824 --> 00:37:44,867 is about a journey. 302 00:37:45,117 --> 00:37:47,870 Home is a place you dream of. 303 00:37:48,162 --> 00:37:49,956 Berg, I don't mean to distract you, 304 00:37:50,081 --> 00:37:52,208 but you're studying Homer, not Sophie. 305 00:38:01,175 --> 00:38:02,176 It's wonderful. 306 00:38:02,552 --> 00:38:05,096 Wonderful. It's going to be a great summer. 307 00:38:19,276 --> 00:38:21,903 - Why do you leave early? - He always leaves early. 308 00:38:22,028 --> 00:38:25,365 - Do you have somewhere to go? - See you tomorrow. 309 00:38:34,124 --> 00:38:35,709 I'm sorry I'm late. 310 00:38:38,086 --> 00:38:39,754 I got held up at school. 311 00:38:41,965 --> 00:38:43,466 I've got a new book. 312 00:38:44,718 --> 00:38:46,386 The Lady with the Little Dog. 313 00:38:49,681 --> 00:38:50,891 By Anton Chekhov. 314 00:38:51,641 --> 00:38:54,226 "The talk was that a new face had appeared on the promenade". 315 00:38:55,019 --> 00:38:56,437 "A lady with a little dog". 316 00:39:09,158 --> 00:39:11,660 Schmitz, one moment, please. 317 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,082 I read the reports on you. Every single one excellent. 318 00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:19,543 You'll be working in the office. 319 00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:22,796 You got promoted. Congratulations. 320 00:39:34,683 --> 00:39:36,101 Let's get out of here! 321 00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:39,646 Come on. Michael, we're leaving, let's go. 322 00:39:40,647 --> 00:39:41,356 Michael. 323 00:39:41,481 --> 00:39:43,900 It's meant to be a surprise, for your birthday. 324 00:39:48,112 --> 00:39:49,739 - Come on. - What's the matter? 325 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:53,534 - I'm sorry, really. - We thought you'd like it. 326 00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:55,703 We've got beer! We're going to dance! 327 00:39:56,746 --> 00:39:57,789 I promised someone. 328 00:39:58,998 --> 00:40:00,833 Michael, please! 329 00:40:06,798 --> 00:40:09,634 "Here and there the reflection of the stars and the lights" 330 00:40:10,301 --> 00:40:12,053 "on the bank quivered and trembled". 331 00:40:12,178 --> 00:40:14,973 - Oh, kid, kid... - What? 332 00:40:15,306 --> 00:40:16,182 Stop. 333 00:40:16,641 --> 00:40:17,850 What's wrong now? 334 00:40:19,018 --> 00:40:20,687 Nothing's wrong. 335 00:40:23,064 --> 00:40:24,607 Nothing. 336 00:40:27,067 --> 00:40:28,360 You know, 337 00:40:28,902 --> 00:40:30,362 you never ask. 338 00:40:31,071 --> 00:40:33,657 You never bother to ask how I am! 339 00:40:34,324 --> 00:40:35,867 You never say. 340 00:40:37,286 --> 00:40:38,912 It just happens to be my birthday. 341 00:40:40,789 --> 00:40:42,165 It's my birthday, that's all. 342 00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:45,419 You've never even asked when it is. 343 00:40:45,586 --> 00:40:46,795 If you want a fight, kid... 344 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,089 No, I don't want a fight! What's wrong with you? 345 00:40:49,256 --> 00:40:50,632 What business is it of yours? 346 00:40:52,134 --> 00:40:54,595 It's always on your terms, everything. 347 00:40:55,596 --> 00:40:56,972 We do what you want. 348 00:40:57,139 --> 00:40:59,516 Always what you want. My friends were giving me a party. 349 00:40:59,641 --> 00:41:01,018 Why are you here then? 350 00:41:01,184 --> 00:41:02,311 Go back to your party. 351 00:41:02,686 --> 00:41:04,396 Is that what you want? 352 00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:32,381 It's always me that has to apologize. 353 00:41:32,715 --> 00:41:36,761 You don't have to apologize. No one has to apologize. 354 00:41:45,478 --> 00:41:47,188 War and Peace, kid. 355 00:43:32,582 --> 00:43:34,709 Now you must go back to your friends. 356 00:43:51,059 --> 00:43:51,893 Are you all right? 357 00:45:23,149 --> 00:45:24,191 It's him. 358 00:45:28,404 --> 00:45:29,363 Good. 359 00:45:30,656 --> 00:45:32,742 Get the boy something to eat. 360 00:45:41,918 --> 00:45:45,378 I think we all knew you'd come back to us eventually. 361 00:46:54,697 --> 00:46:55,823 Mr. Berg? 362 00:46:56,365 --> 00:46:57,491 It is eight o'clock. 363 00:46:57,992 --> 00:46:59,493 Your daughter. 364 00:47:02,329 --> 00:47:03,414 Thank you. 365 00:47:07,001 --> 00:47:08,210 Julia. 366 00:47:11,171 --> 00:47:12,214 I've not kept you waiting? 367 00:47:13,090 --> 00:47:14,049 I was early. 368 00:47:14,884 --> 00:47:16,176 Welcome back! 369 00:47:19,178 --> 00:47:19,971 So, 370 00:47:20,805 --> 00:47:22,223 how will you decide? 371 00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:24,517 I don't know. 372 00:47:25,143 --> 00:47:27,103 I'm happy back in Berlin, I suppose. 373 00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:28,521 You've seen your mother? 374 00:47:29,439 --> 00:47:31,858 I wanted to get away, that's all. 375 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:34,527 It was Paris, but it could have been anywhere. 376 00:47:35,111 --> 00:47:37,030 Away from your parents. 377 00:47:38,907 --> 00:47:41,242 I'm aware I was difficult. 378 00:47:43,161 --> 00:47:45,038 I wasn't always open with you. 379 00:47:48,666 --> 00:47:51,127 I'm not open with anyone. 380 00:47:57,425 --> 00:47:58,927 I knew you were distant. 381 00:48:01,012 --> 00:48:02,096 You know, 382 00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:05,807 I always assumed it was my fault. 383 00:48:06,808 --> 00:48:08,143 Julia, 384 00:48:09,978 --> 00:48:11,438 how wrong can you be? 385 00:48:23,283 --> 00:48:25,827 - I'll see you very soon? - I'll see you soon. 386 00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:30,999 - Good night, dad. - Good night, Julia. 387 00:48:39,383 --> 00:48:43,053 Those in the special seminar group, please stay on in this room. 388 00:48:43,971 --> 00:48:46,056 Professor Rohl will be here in a moment. 389 00:49:17,461 --> 00:49:18,838 Well, 390 00:49:19,755 --> 00:49:20,715 we seem 391 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,553 to be quite a small group. A small group and a select one. 392 00:49:26,637 --> 00:49:29,557 Really, this is going to be a unique seminar. 393 00:49:30,141 --> 00:49:33,935 We are going to start with a reading list, gentlemen. 394 00:49:34,394 --> 00:49:35,979 Karl Jaspers... 395 00:49:37,022 --> 00:49:37,814 And ladies. 396 00:49:37,939 --> 00:49:40,609 The Question of German Guilt. 397 00:49:57,709 --> 00:50:00,295 So, this is where you are. 398 00:50:00,754 --> 00:50:01,838 Yes. 399 00:50:04,132 --> 00:50:05,300 Come in. 400 00:50:07,761 --> 00:50:09,554 You take work seriously. 401 00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:11,348 I don't know. 402 00:50:11,932 --> 00:50:13,850 You're rather a serious boy. 403 00:50:14,142 --> 00:50:15,852 It's how I was brought up. 404 00:50:17,604 --> 00:50:18,813 What about you? 405 00:50:19,647 --> 00:50:20,731 Are you serious? 406 00:50:23,734 --> 00:50:25,027 Sure you want to work tonight? 407 00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:28,405 Yeah. 408 00:50:30,491 --> 00:50:32,117 But I won't work every night. 409 00:50:33,327 --> 00:50:34,995 See you tomorrow. 410 00:50:48,884 --> 00:50:50,553 Do you need a hand? 411 00:51:15,493 --> 00:51:16,578 Why all the police? 412 00:51:16,703 --> 00:51:19,372 They're worried about demonstrators. 413 00:51:19,664 --> 00:51:21,332 For or against? 414 00:51:21,583 --> 00:51:22,876 Both. 415 00:51:28,214 --> 00:51:29,382 Wow, it's a circus. 416 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,095 All rise. 417 00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:39,475 All photographers are now asked to leave. 418 00:51:40,894 --> 00:51:43,813 This court is now in session. Please sit down. 419 00:51:47,317 --> 00:51:51,695 First I'm going to hear motions from each of the defendants' lawyers. 420 00:51:52,112 --> 00:51:53,488 They argue that there is no reason 421 00:51:53,614 --> 00:51:57,534 to keep their defendants in jail until the outcome 422 00:51:57,659 --> 00:51:58,535 of their trial. 423 00:51:58,744 --> 00:52:01,371 - I'll take it case by case. - Want a pen? 424 00:52:01,538 --> 00:52:02,831 I've got a pen. 425 00:52:03,123 --> 00:52:04,791 Hanna Schmitz. 426 00:52:06,543 --> 00:52:07,920 Your name is Hanna Schmitz? 427 00:52:08,879 --> 00:52:09,880 Yes. 428 00:52:10,547 --> 00:52:12,382 Can you speak louder, please? 429 00:52:12,841 --> 00:52:15,677 - My name is Hanna Schmitz. - Thank you. 430 00:52:16,011 --> 00:52:19,598 You were born on October 21, 1922? 431 00:52:20,057 --> 00:52:21,225 Yes. 432 00:52:21,934 --> 00:52:26,271 At Hermannstadt. And you're now 43 years old? 433 00:52:26,897 --> 00:52:27,898 Yes. 434 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:31,401 You joined the SS in 1943? 435 00:52:32,486 --> 00:52:33,320 Yes. 436 00:52:33,487 --> 00:52:35,906 What was your reason for joining? 437 00:52:37,657 --> 00:52:40,660 You were working at the Siemens factory at the time? 438 00:52:40,826 --> 00:52:41,786 Yes. 439 00:52:42,036 --> 00:52:46,332 You'd been offered a promotion. Why did you prefer to join the SS? 440 00:52:46,791 --> 00:52:47,959 Objection. 441 00:52:48,084 --> 00:52:49,835 I'll rephrase my question. 442 00:52:49,961 --> 00:52:52,588 I'm trying to ascertain 443 00:52:52,713 --> 00:52:55,216 if she joined the SS freely, 444 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,134 of her own free will. 445 00:52:58,803 --> 00:53:00,763 I heard there were jobs. 446 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:02,390 Go on. 447 00:53:02,890 --> 00:53:05,893 I was working at Siemens 448 00:53:06,185 --> 00:53:08,563 when I heard the SS was recruiting. 449 00:53:08,729 --> 00:53:11,983 Did you know the kind of work you'd be expected to do? 450 00:53:12,567 --> 00:53:14,485 They were looking for guards. 451 00:53:16,404 --> 00:53:17,572 I applied for a job. 452 00:53:17,989 --> 00:53:21,576 - And you worked first at Auschwitz? - Yes. 453 00:53:21,993 --> 00:53:23,952 Until 1944. 454 00:53:24,828 --> 00:53:28,248 Then you were moved to a smaller camp near Krakow. 455 00:53:28,748 --> 00:53:30,166 - Yes. - Are you OK? 456 00:53:30,584 --> 00:53:32,836 - You then helped move prisoners... - Yes. 457 00:53:32,961 --> 00:53:36,590 To the west, in the winter of 1944, in the so-called "death marches"? 458 00:53:57,944 --> 00:53:59,571 So what did you think? 459 00:54:00,030 --> 00:54:01,239 I don't know. 460 00:54:02,824 --> 00:54:04,743 It wasn't quite what I was expecting. 461 00:54:05,076 --> 00:54:07,370 Wasn't it? In what way? 462 00:54:07,787 --> 00:54:09,121 What were you expecting? 463 00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:11,540 I thought it was exciting. 464 00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:13,292 Exciting? 465 00:54:13,626 --> 00:54:16,462 Why? Why did you think it was exciting? 466 00:54:16,712 --> 00:54:18,005 Because it's justice. 467 00:54:47,743 --> 00:54:49,578 Societies 468 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,997 think they operate 469 00:54:52,122 --> 00:54:54,499 by something called morality, but they don't. 470 00:54:54,874 --> 00:54:58,044 They operate by something called law. 471 00:54:59,337 --> 00:55:04,300 You're not guilty of anything merely by working at Auschwitz. 472 00:55:05,093 --> 00:55:08,263 8,000 people worked at Auschwitz. 473 00:55:09,013 --> 00:55:13,977 Precisely 19 have been convicted and only six for murder. 474 00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:17,814 To prove murder you have to prove intent. 475 00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:20,441 That's the law. 476 00:55:21,484 --> 00:55:24,821 The question is never "Was it wrong?", 477 00:55:25,238 --> 00:55:26,990 but "Was it legal?" 478 00:55:27,574 --> 00:55:30,577 And not by our laws. 479 00:55:30,785 --> 00:55:31,786 No. 480 00:55:32,495 --> 00:55:34,706 By the laws at the time. 481 00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:35,915 But isn't that... 482 00:55:36,499 --> 00:55:37,458 What? 483 00:55:38,459 --> 00:55:39,127 Narrow? 484 00:55:39,377 --> 00:55:42,963 Oh, yes, the law is narrow. 485 00:55:44,172 --> 00:55:45,883 On the other hand, 486 00:55:46,341 --> 00:55:49,803 I suspect people who kill other people 487 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:52,180 tend to be aware that it's wrong. 488 00:55:54,474 --> 00:55:55,225 Miss Schmitz, 489 00:55:56,977 --> 00:55:59,146 you're familiar with this book? 490 00:56:00,856 --> 00:56:01,565 Yes. 491 00:56:02,524 --> 00:56:05,903 Parts of it have already been read out in court. 492 00:56:06,153 --> 00:56:07,946 It's by a survivor, 493 00:56:08,572 --> 00:56:10,532 a prisoner who survived, 494 00:56:10,866 --> 00:56:12,618 Ilana Mather. 495 00:56:13,452 --> 00:56:15,913 She was in the camp when she was a child, wasn't she? 496 00:56:16,163 --> 00:56:18,457 - She was with her mother. - Yes. 497 00:56:18,790 --> 00:56:20,626 In the book, she describes 498 00:56:20,918 --> 00:56:23,295 a selection process. 499 00:56:24,129 --> 00:56:26,380 At the end of the month's labor, every month, 500 00:56:26,505 --> 00:56:29,175 60 inmates were selected. 501 00:56:29,592 --> 00:56:33,012 They were sent from the satellite camp back to Auschwitz. 502 00:56:33,137 --> 00:56:35,014 That's right, isn't it? 503 00:56:36,474 --> 00:56:38,142 Yes, that's right. 504 00:56:38,809 --> 00:56:40,520 And so far, 505 00:56:40,811 --> 00:56:42,897 each of the defendants has denied 506 00:56:43,022 --> 00:56:45,816 being part of that process. 507 00:56:46,192 --> 00:56:48,110 Now I'm going to ask you. 508 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,488 Were you part of it? 509 00:56:53,115 --> 00:56:54,033 Yes. 510 00:56:57,703 --> 00:57:01,249 So you helped make the selection? 511 00:57:02,041 --> 00:57:02,792 Yes. 512 00:57:03,084 --> 00:57:04,335 You admit that? 513 00:57:09,799 --> 00:57:12,467 Then, tell me, 514 00:57:13,134 --> 00:57:15,470 how did that selection happen? 515 00:57:16,221 --> 00:57:18,974 There were six guards, 516 00:57:19,516 --> 00:57:22,644 so we decided we'd choose 10 people each. 517 00:57:24,521 --> 00:57:26,606 That's how we did it every month. 518 00:57:27,607 --> 00:57:29,234 We'd all choose 10. 519 00:57:29,484 --> 00:57:32,279 Are you saying your fellow defendants took part? 520 00:57:32,696 --> 00:57:34,447 We all did. 521 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,284 Even though they've denied it? 522 00:57:37,826 --> 00:57:40,245 Saying "We", "We all" is easier 523 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:43,164 than "l", "I alone", isn't it, Miss Schmitz? 524 00:57:45,125 --> 00:57:47,294 Did you not realize 525 00:57:48,169 --> 00:57:50,964 that you were sending these women to their deaths? 526 00:57:51,131 --> 00:57:52,924 Yes, but there were new arrivals. 527 00:57:53,091 --> 00:57:55,510 New women were arriving all the time. 528 00:57:56,052 --> 00:57:59,513 The old ones had to make room for the new ones. 529 00:58:00,723 --> 00:58:02,016 I'm not sure you understand. 530 00:58:02,183 --> 00:58:04,101 We couldn't keep everyone. 531 00:58:04,351 --> 00:58:06,187 - There wasn't room. - No. 532 00:58:07,188 --> 00:58:09,023 What I'm saying is... 533 00:58:10,316 --> 00:58:11,609 Let me rephrase. 534 00:58:12,693 --> 00:58:15,571 To make room, you were picking women out: 535 00:58:15,696 --> 00:58:18,407 "You and you have to be sent back to be killed". 536 00:58:20,201 --> 00:58:21,243 Well, 537 00:58:21,744 --> 00:58:23,621 what would you have done? 538 00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:35,674 Should I never have signed up at Siemens? 539 00:58:48,228 --> 00:58:50,146 Ms. Mather, they're ready for you. 540 00:58:54,275 --> 00:58:56,277 Go, go, go, go. 541 00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:10,458 - Where's Michael? - I don't know. 542 00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:16,172 In your book you describe the process of selection. 543 00:59:17,006 --> 00:59:17,966 Yes. 544 00:59:18,675 --> 00:59:22,554 You were made to work and then, when you were no longer any use, 545 00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:25,390 they sent you back to Auschwitz to be killed. 546 00:59:26,224 --> 00:59:28,892 Are there people here today who made that selection? 547 00:59:29,017 --> 00:59:30,102 Yes. 548 00:59:31,144 --> 00:59:32,896 I need you to identify them. 549 00:59:34,648 --> 00:59:36,692 Can you please point them out? 550 00:59:49,204 --> 00:59:49,872 Her. 551 00:59:54,376 --> 00:59:55,669 And her. 552 00:59:58,338 --> 00:59:59,590 Her. 553 01:00:02,467 --> 01:00:03,886 And her. 554 01:00:06,221 --> 01:00:07,472 Her. 555 01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:11,685 And her. 556 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,604 Thank you. 557 01:00:14,896 --> 01:00:16,272 Please continue. 558 01:00:16,606 --> 01:00:18,900 Each of the guards would choose a certain number of women. 559 01:00:20,151 --> 01:00:22,195 Hanna Schmitz chose differently. 560 01:00:22,904 --> 01:00:24,739 In what way differently? 561 01:00:29,619 --> 01:00:31,370 She had favorites. 562 01:00:33,372 --> 01:00:35,124 Girls, mostly young. 563 01:00:35,458 --> 01:00:37,376 We all remarked on it. 564 01:00:38,461 --> 01:00:41,047 She gave them food and places to sleep. 565 01:00:41,422 --> 01:00:42,798 In the evenings, 566 01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:47,595 she asked them to join her and we all thought... 567 01:00:48,137 --> 01:00:50,223 You can imagine what we thought. 568 01:00:51,015 --> 01:00:52,475 And then we found out 569 01:00:53,226 --> 01:00:56,604 she was making these women read aloud to her. 570 01:00:59,190 --> 01:01:00,941 They were reading to her. 571 01:01:02,526 --> 01:01:04,778 At first we thought: 572 01:01:07,322 --> 01:01:09,658 "This guard is more sensitive, she's more human". 573 01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:11,993 "She's kinder". 574 01:01:12,827 --> 01:01:16,206 Often she chose the weak, the sick. 575 01:01:17,874 --> 01:01:20,627 She picked them out, she seemed to be protecting them almost. 576 01:01:21,461 --> 01:01:23,547 But then she dispatched them. 577 01:01:26,758 --> 01:01:28,802 Is that kinder? 578 01:01:37,894 --> 01:01:40,730 I want to move on now to the march. 579 01:01:41,606 --> 01:01:45,068 As I understand it, you and your daughter were marched for months. 580 01:01:45,193 --> 01:01:47,611 In the winter of 1944 our camp 581 01:01:47,736 --> 01:01:48,779 was closed down. 582 01:01:49,446 --> 01:01:51,156 We were told we had to move on. 583 01:01:51,365 --> 01:01:53,659 But the plan kept changing every day. 584 01:01:54,535 --> 01:01:57,204 Women were dying all around us in the snow. 585 01:01:58,497 --> 01:02:00,374 Half of us died on the march. 586 01:02:00,916 --> 01:02:02,585 My daughter says in the book: 587 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,255 "Less a death march, more a death gallop". 588 01:02:07,882 --> 01:02:09,633 Please, 589 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,886 tell us about the night in the church. 590 01:02:19,894 --> 01:02:24,064 That night we thought we were lucky to have a roof over our heads. 591 01:02:24,815 --> 01:02:25,691 Go on. 592 01:02:27,776 --> 01:02:29,737 We'd arrived in the village. 593 01:02:30,779 --> 01:02:32,906 As always, the guards took 594 01:02:33,031 --> 01:02:34,991 the best quarters, the priest's house. 595 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,493 But they let us sleep in a church. 596 01:02:38,828 --> 01:02:42,290 There was a bombing raid in the middle of the night. 597 01:02:42,916 --> 01:02:44,834 The church was hit. 598 01:02:46,294 --> 01:02:49,631 At first we could only hear the fire that was in the steeple. 599 01:02:51,799 --> 01:02:54,469 Then we could see burning beams 600 01:02:56,221 --> 01:02:58,556 and they began to crash to the floor. 601 01:03:01,518 --> 01:03:03,311 Everyone rushed... 602 01:03:05,688 --> 01:03:07,690 rushed to the doors. 603 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,445 But the door had been locked, 604 01:03:12,987 --> 01:03:14,030 on the outside. 605 01:03:14,614 --> 01:03:18,367 The church burned down and nobody came to open the doors. 606 01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:20,911 Is that right? 607 01:03:21,662 --> 01:03:22,955 Nobody. 608 01:03:23,330 --> 01:03:25,249 Even though you were all burning to death? 609 01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:31,922 How many people were killed? 610 01:03:33,215 --> 01:03:35,175 Everyone was killed. 611 01:03:37,594 --> 01:03:39,137 But you survived. 612 01:03:47,604 --> 01:03:48,689 Thank you. 613 01:03:51,024 --> 01:03:54,653 I want to thank you for coming to this country 614 01:03:55,112 --> 01:03:57,030 today, to testify. 615 01:04:01,285 --> 01:04:02,452 I don't know. 616 01:04:03,828 --> 01:04:05,580 I don't know what we're doing here anymore. 617 01:04:06,831 --> 01:04:07,832 Don't you? 618 01:04:07,999 --> 01:04:12,670 You keep telling us to think like lawyers, but there is something 619 01:04:12,795 --> 01:04:13,838 disgusting about this. 620 01:04:14,213 --> 01:04:15,089 How so? 621 01:04:15,298 --> 01:04:17,425 This didn't happen to the Germans, it happened to the Jews. 622 01:04:19,427 --> 01:04:22,930 - What are we trying to do? - We are trying to understand! 623 01:04:23,055 --> 01:04:25,892 Six women locked 300 Jews in a church and let them burn. 624 01:04:26,017 --> 01:04:27,476 What is there to understand? 625 01:04:30,897 --> 01:04:34,483 Tell me, I'm asking! What is there to understand? 626 01:04:38,112 --> 01:04:39,697 I started out believing in this trial, 627 01:04:39,822 --> 01:04:42,074 I thought it was great. Now I think... 628 01:04:42,575 --> 01:04:44,118 It's just a diversion. 629 01:04:44,452 --> 01:04:45,328 Yes? 630 01:04:45,953 --> 01:04:47,288 Diversion from what? 631 01:04:47,622 --> 01:04:50,207 You choose six women, you put them on trial, 632 01:04:50,373 --> 01:04:51,833 you say: "They were the evil ones," 633 01:04:51,958 --> 01:04:53,418 "they were the guilty ones". 634 01:04:53,668 --> 01:04:55,879 Because one of the victims happened to write a book. 635 01:04:56,296 --> 01:04:58,798 That's why they're on trial and nobody else. 636 01:04:59,424 --> 01:05:01,134 Do you know how many camps there were in Europe? 637 01:05:02,802 --> 01:05:05,305 People go on about how much did everyone know. 638 01:05:05,764 --> 01:05:07,599 Who knew? What did they know? 639 01:05:07,766 --> 01:05:09,142 Everyone knew. 640 01:05:09,267 --> 01:05:12,562 Our parents, our teachers. That isn't the question. 641 01:05:14,022 --> 01:05:15,982 The question is "How could you let this happen?" 642 01:05:16,149 --> 01:05:19,277 And better, "Why didn't you kill yourself when you found out?" 643 01:05:22,447 --> 01:05:26,701 Thousands. That's how many camps there were. Everyone knew. 644 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,419 Look at that woman. 645 01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:40,214 Which woman? 646 01:05:40,339 --> 01:05:42,383 The woman you're always staring at. 647 01:05:43,050 --> 01:05:44,385 I'm sorry, but you are. 648 01:05:53,644 --> 01:05:55,312 I don't know which one you mean. 649 01:05:56,897 --> 01:05:58,649 You know what I'd do? 650 01:06:01,193 --> 01:06:02,945 Put the gun in my hand, 651 01:06:03,529 --> 01:06:04,780 I'd shoot her myself. 652 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,286 I'd shoot them all. 653 01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:08,251 Why did you not unlock the doors? 654 01:09:10,420 --> 01:09:12,714 Why did you not unlock the doors? 655 01:09:15,926 --> 01:09:18,929 I've asked all of you and I'm getting no answer. 656 01:09:20,138 --> 01:09:21,848 Two of the victims are in this court. 657 01:09:21,973 --> 01:09:23,475 They deserve an answer. 658 01:09:27,811 --> 01:09:30,272 This is the SS report. You all have copies. 659 01:09:31,815 --> 01:09:35,277 This is the report written, approved and signed by all of you 660 01:09:35,402 --> 01:09:37,071 immediately after the event. 661 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:38,989 In the written report 662 01:09:39,323 --> 01:09:43,494 you all claim you didn't even know about the fire until afterwards. 663 01:09:44,578 --> 01:09:46,121 But that isn't true, is it? 664 01:09:47,331 --> 01:09:48,415 Well? 665 01:09:50,417 --> 01:09:51,585 It's not true. 666 01:09:56,006 --> 01:09:57,633 I don't know what you're asking. 667 01:09:58,384 --> 01:10:01,428 The first thing is why didn't you unlock the doors? 668 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,847 Obviously. 669 01:10:03,764 --> 01:10:05,641 For the obvious reason. 670 01:10:06,851 --> 01:10:07,643 We couldn't. 671 01:10:07,977 --> 01:10:08,978 Why couldn't you? 672 01:10:09,769 --> 01:10:11,104 We were guards. 673 01:10:12,313 --> 01:10:14,899 Our job was to guard the prisoners. 674 01:10:15,692 --> 01:10:17,902 We couldn't just let them escape. 675 01:10:18,027 --> 01:10:18,987 I see. 676 01:10:19,612 --> 01:10:22,615 - If they escaped, you'd be blamed. - No. 677 01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:24,450 - Maybe even executed. - No. 678 01:10:24,784 --> 01:10:25,910 Well, then? 679 01:10:26,953 --> 01:10:29,247 If we'd opened the doors, there would have been chaos. 680 01:10:29,914 --> 01:10:32,000 How could we have restored order? 681 01:10:32,542 --> 01:10:36,671 It happened so fast. It was snowing, the bombs, the flames... 682 01:10:37,046 --> 01:10:39,549 There were flames all over the village, then the screaming began, 683 01:10:39,674 --> 01:10:41,801 and got worse and worse. 684 01:10:41,926 --> 01:10:46,055 If they'd all come rushing out, we couldn't just let them escape. 685 01:10:46,306 --> 01:10:48,141 We were responsible for them! 686 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:55,023 So you did know what was happening. 687 01:10:55,147 --> 01:10:56,732 You made a choice. 688 01:10:57,816 --> 01:10:59,401 You let them die 689 01:10:59,902 --> 01:11:02,279 rather than risk letting them escape. 690 01:11:05,115 --> 01:11:07,367 The other defendants 691 01:11:07,493 --> 01:11:10,329 have made an allegation against you. Have you heard this allegation? 692 01:11:11,705 --> 01:11:13,665 They say you were in charge. 693 01:11:15,042 --> 01:11:17,878 It isn't true. I was just one of the guards. 694 01:11:18,003 --> 01:11:19,296 - She was in charge. - She was. 695 01:11:19,421 --> 01:11:20,422 It was her idea. 696 01:11:20,547 --> 01:11:21,673 Of course she was. 697 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,636 - Did you write the report? - No, we all discussed what to say. 698 01:11:25,802 --> 01:11:27,888 We all wrote it together. 699 01:11:28,013 --> 01:11:29,598 She wrote the report. 700 01:11:29,723 --> 01:11:30,641 She was in charge. 701 01:11:30,766 --> 01:11:31,683 - Is that true? - No. 702 01:11:31,808 --> 01:11:33,519 - Yes, you did. - Does it matter? 703 01:11:33,644 --> 01:11:34,436 She wrote it. 704 01:11:34,561 --> 01:11:37,231 I need to see a sample of your handwriting. 705 01:11:39,358 --> 01:11:41,442 - My handwriting? - Yes. 706 01:11:41,567 --> 01:11:43,361 To establish who wrote it. 707 01:11:43,486 --> 01:11:44,278 Your Honor, 708 01:11:44,403 --> 01:11:45,530 it's not appropriate... 709 01:11:45,947 --> 01:11:47,031 Take her a piece of paper. 710 01:11:47,156 --> 01:11:48,825 Counsel, approach the bench. 711 01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:52,370 - You're going to compare...? - Approach the bench. 712 01:11:57,875 --> 01:11:59,919 I will not accept this in my court. 713 01:12:00,461 --> 01:12:01,712 I'm sorry. 714 01:12:10,388 --> 01:12:11,514 I'd rather listen to you. 715 01:12:31,408 --> 01:12:32,450 There's no need. 716 01:12:37,289 --> 01:12:38,790 I wrote the report. 717 01:12:53,305 --> 01:12:54,514 Silence, please. 718 01:12:56,725 --> 01:12:57,684 Order! 719 01:13:10,489 --> 01:13:12,948 You've been skipping seminars. 720 01:13:36,514 --> 01:13:38,432 I have a piece of information 721 01:13:39,183 --> 01:13:41,268 concerning one of the defendants. 722 01:13:42,186 --> 01:13:43,479 Something they're not admitting. 723 01:13:43,687 --> 01:13:45,147 What information? 724 01:13:54,156 --> 01:13:57,535 You don't need me to tell you it's perfectly clear 725 01:13:57,743 --> 01:14:01,037 you have a moral obligation to disclose it to the court. 726 01:14:01,287 --> 01:14:04,165 It happens this information is favorable to the defendant. 727 01:14:05,166 --> 01:14:06,543 It can help her case. 728 01:14:07,460 --> 01:14:09,128 It may even affect the outcome. 729 01:14:09,712 --> 01:14:11,214 Certainly the sentencing. 730 01:14:11,548 --> 01:14:12,465 So? 731 01:14:13,508 --> 01:14:15,134 There's a problem. 732 01:14:16,261 --> 01:14:19,889 The defendant herself is determined to keep this information secret. 733 01:14:23,601 --> 01:14:25,770 - One moment, please. - Sorry. 734 01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:36,156 What are her reasons? 735 01:14:38,867 --> 01:14:40,660 Because she's ashamed. 736 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,121 Ashamed of what? 737 01:14:49,793 --> 01:14:51,003 Have you spoken to her? 738 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:52,588 Of course not. 739 01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:55,841 Why "Of course not"? 740 01:14:57,176 --> 01:14:58,510 I can't. 741 01:15:00,220 --> 01:15:01,763 I can't do that. 742 01:15:02,890 --> 01:15:04,683 I can't talk to her. 743 01:15:05,934 --> 01:15:09,688 What we feel is utterly unimportant. 744 01:15:09,855 --> 01:15:12,274 The only question is what we do. 745 01:15:14,443 --> 01:15:18,906 If people like you don't learn from what happened to people like me, 746 01:15:19,031 --> 01:15:22,409 then what the hell is the point of anything? 747 01:15:30,625 --> 01:15:31,834 Schmitz. 748 01:15:33,169 --> 01:15:34,795 You have a visitor. 749 01:15:48,309 --> 01:15:49,602 Quiet, please! 750 01:15:51,562 --> 01:15:53,564 Gertrud Bauer. 751 01:15:55,608 --> 01:15:58,361 Andreas Michael Springer. 752 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,698 Michael Berg. 753 01:16:06,494 --> 01:16:08,830 Walter Schörlich. 754 01:17:43,422 --> 01:17:44,632 Time's up. 755 01:18:04,442 --> 01:18:05,902 Are you coming in? 756 01:18:16,287 --> 01:18:17,872 You took your time. 757 01:18:40,769 --> 01:18:41,770 What is it? 758 01:19:04,084 --> 01:19:05,502 Where are you going? 759 01:19:07,212 --> 01:19:08,463 I'm sorry. 760 01:19:09,882 --> 01:19:11,508 I need to sleep by myself. 761 01:19:57,470 --> 01:19:59,096 I'll just be a minute. 762 01:20:28,792 --> 01:20:29,543 Nazi! 763 01:20:29,709 --> 01:20:30,794 Nazi whore! 764 01:20:42,389 --> 01:20:44,015 Silence in the court! 765 01:20:44,724 --> 01:20:46,393 Silence in the court! 766 01:20:46,893 --> 01:20:48,353 All rise. 767 01:20:55,401 --> 01:20:57,194 The court finds guilty 768 01:20:57,361 --> 01:21:00,698 the defendants Rita Beckhart, Carolina Steinhoff, 769 01:21:00,865 --> 01:21:03,325 Regina Kroit, Angela Zeva 770 01:21:03,450 --> 01:21:05,119 and Andrea Lumen 771 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,415 of jointly aiding and abetting murder in 300 cases. 772 01:21:10,666 --> 01:21:12,710 The court finds guilty 773 01:21:13,043 --> 01:21:15,045 the defendant Hanna Schmitz 774 01:21:15,713 --> 01:21:18,174 of murder in 300 cases. 775 01:21:22,803 --> 01:21:25,473 The court sentences the accused as follows: 776 01:21:25,806 --> 01:21:28,726 Rita Beckhart, Carolina Steinhoff, 777 01:21:29,059 --> 01:21:30,352 Regina Kroit, 778 01:21:30,603 --> 01:21:33,397 Angela Zeva and Andrea Lumen 779 01:21:33,939 --> 01:21:36,191 to each serve a total sentence in prison 780 01:21:36,608 --> 01:21:38,485 of four years and three months. 781 01:21:39,235 --> 01:21:40,612 Hanna Schmitz, 782 01:21:41,696 --> 01:21:45,033 in view of your own admissions and your special role, 783 01:21:45,617 --> 01:21:47,744 you're in a different category. 784 01:21:48,536 --> 01:21:50,747 The court sentences the accused Schmitz 785 01:21:51,748 --> 01:21:53,625 to imprisonment for life. 786 01:22:26,782 --> 01:22:29,201 - Where are we going? - I said 787 01:22:29,326 --> 01:22:30,953 I'll tell you when we get there. 788 01:22:31,537 --> 01:22:33,413 You told me you like surprises. 789 01:22:33,539 --> 01:22:36,250 I like surprises. 790 01:22:53,976 --> 01:22:56,186 She's grown, hasn't she? 791 01:22:58,021 --> 01:23:01,733 I don't know, it's so long since I saw her, how can I tell? 792 01:23:03,735 --> 01:23:05,404 It's my fault. 793 01:23:06,405 --> 01:23:08,156 We shouldn't have come unannounced. 794 01:23:08,322 --> 01:23:11,117 Daddy's going to live in his own house. 795 01:23:14,662 --> 01:23:17,456 Mother, I'm afraid I have some bad news. 796 01:23:17,832 --> 01:23:20,293 Julia knows, we've already told her. 797 01:23:21,043 --> 01:23:23,254 Gertrud and I, we're getting a divorce. 798 01:23:23,754 --> 01:23:27,341 You don't come for your father's funeral, but you come for this? 799 01:23:29,927 --> 01:23:31,804 It's not easy for me to visit this town. 800 01:23:31,929 --> 01:23:33,389 Were you really so unhappy? 801 01:23:33,514 --> 01:23:35,808 That's not what I'm saying, and it's not what I meant 802 01:23:35,933 --> 01:23:36,642 Well, then? 803 01:23:39,937 --> 01:23:42,565 You mustn't worry about Gertrud. 804 01:23:42,982 --> 01:23:46,777 I'm going to look after her. Anyway, she's a state prosecutor. 805 01:23:46,986 --> 01:23:49,572 - She earns far more than I do. - Michael. 806 01:23:52,116 --> 01:23:54,242 I'm not worried about Gertrud. 807 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,703 I'm worried about you. 808 01:24:41,455 --> 01:24:45,668 "Sing to me of the man, Muse," 809 01:24:45,793 --> 01:24:47,753 "the man of twists and turns" 810 01:24:47,878 --> 01:24:50,506 "driven time and again off course" 811 01:24:51,006 --> 01:24:55,052 "once he had plundered the hallowed heights of Troy". 812 01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:22,621 215, mail. 813 01:25:24,248 --> 01:25:26,958 217, mail. 814 01:25:29,002 --> 01:25:31,087 220, mail. 815 01:25:43,266 --> 01:25:46,102 121966215. 816 01:25:46,227 --> 01:25:47,353 Number? 817 01:25:49,522 --> 01:25:50,899 Open it. 818 01:26:07,874 --> 01:26:11,627 Testing, testing, One, two, three, testing. 819 01:26:31,396 --> 01:26:33,565 The Odyssey, by Homer. 820 01:26:47,162 --> 01:26:48,080 The Odyssey, 821 01:26:48,455 --> 01:26:49,790 by Homer. 822 01:26:50,791 --> 01:26:53,544 "Sing to me of the man, Muse," 823 01:26:54,628 --> 01:26:56,838 "the man of twists and turns" 824 01:26:57,004 --> 01:26:59,757 "driven time and again off course" 825 01:26:59,966 --> 01:27:03,427 "once he had plundered the hallowed heights of Troy". 826 01:27:04,220 --> 01:27:05,721 "...and back he went to the house of death". 827 01:27:05,847 --> 01:27:09,642 "But I held fast in place hoping that others might still come," 828 01:27:09,809 --> 01:27:13,396 "shades of famous heroes, men who died in the old days" 829 01:27:13,521 --> 01:27:16,649 "and ghosts of an even older age I longed to see". 830 01:27:16,816 --> 01:27:20,653 "Come, sheath your sword, let's go to bed together." 831 01:27:21,070 --> 01:27:24,198 "Mount my bed and mix in the magic work of love". 832 01:27:24,615 --> 01:27:27,201 "We'll breed deep trust between us". 833 01:27:29,328 --> 01:27:33,499 "Not for all the world, not until you consent to swear, goddess," 834 01:27:33,708 --> 01:27:38,004 "a blinding oath you'll never plot some new intrigue to harm me". 835 01:27:39,422 --> 01:27:42,632 "And she began to swear the oath that I required". 836 01:27:42,757 --> 01:27:44,843 "Never, she would never do me harm". 837 01:27:45,010 --> 01:27:47,429 "And when she'd finished, then, at last," 838 01:27:48,096 --> 01:27:50,974 "I mounted Circe's gorgeous bed". 839 01:27:52,350 --> 01:27:55,604 "When young Dawn with her rose red fingers shone once more" 840 01:27:55,729 --> 01:28:00,567 "they yoked their pair again, and out through the echoing colonnade" 841 01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:03,445 "they whipped the team to a run and on they flew," 842 01:28:03,904 --> 01:28:07,199 "holding nothing back, and as the princes reached the wheatlands..." 843 01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:16,082 "In my end is my beginning". 844 01:28:24,466 --> 01:28:29,178 "Astonishing. I'd always said it was a trick but he went off to sleep". 845 01:28:31,597 --> 01:28:36,644 "...the table and began stamping his feet and flourishing the stick". 846 01:28:36,852 --> 01:28:40,356 "...even a cake, rather like a baba au rhum" 847 01:28:40,481 --> 01:28:42,650 "known as a Zhivago bun". 848 01:28:54,912 --> 01:28:56,831 The Lady with the Little Dog, 849 01:28:57,206 --> 01:28:58,791 by Anton Chekhov. 850 01:29:00,918 --> 01:29:03,379 "The talk was that a new face had appeared" 851 01:29:03,504 --> 01:29:06,632 "on the promenade. A lady with a little dog". 852 01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:09,051 "Dmitri Dmitrich Gurov" 853 01:29:09,176 --> 01:29:11,971 "had spent two weeks in Yalta, so he was bored with it" 854 01:29:12,138 --> 01:29:14,514 "and always looking for fresh faces". 855 01:29:15,306 --> 01:29:17,350 "Sitting in the pavilion at Vernet" 856 01:29:17,475 --> 01:29:20,228 "he saw a young woman walking on the sea front," 857 01:29:20,353 --> 01:29:21,354 "fair haired..." 858 01:29:34,701 --> 01:29:36,369 I want to take out a book. 859 01:29:38,329 --> 01:29:39,372 Which book? 860 01:29:49,382 --> 01:29:51,551 Do you have The Lady with the Little Dog? 861 01:29:52,886 --> 01:29:53,678 Your name? 862 01:29:57,682 --> 01:29:59,057 Hanna Schmitz. 863 01:30:29,963 --> 01:30:31,298 The Lady with the Little Dog. 864 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,386 The lady with the little dog. 865 01:30:36,804 --> 01:30:40,015 The lady with the little dog. 866 01:30:50,650 --> 01:30:53,861 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 867 01:30:54,028 --> 01:30:56,823 "The lady with the little dog". 868 01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,241 "The..." 869 01:31:02,954 --> 01:31:04,122 The. 870 01:31:05,581 --> 01:31:07,458 The, the, the... 871 01:31:17,343 --> 01:31:18,219 The. 872 01:32:24,033 --> 01:32:25,951 - No letter? - No letter. 873 01:32:26,535 --> 01:32:27,661 Sign. 874 01:33:55,747 --> 01:33:57,374 You are Michael Berg? 875 01:33:57,541 --> 01:33:58,417 Yes. 876 01:34:00,169 --> 01:34:03,839 Thank you for calling me. You got my letter? 877 01:34:04,548 --> 01:34:05,674 I have it here. 878 01:34:06,091 --> 01:34:10,012 As I say, Hanna Schmitz is coming up for release very soon. 879 01:34:10,596 --> 01:34:13,390 Hanna has been in prison for over 20 years. 880 01:34:14,266 --> 01:34:15,350 She has no family. 881 01:34:15,476 --> 01:34:17,352 She has no friends. 882 01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:20,147 You're her only contact. 883 01:34:21,190 --> 01:34:23,734 And I’m told you don't visit her. 884 01:34:24,359 --> 01:34:25,694 No, I don't. 885 01:34:26,278 --> 01:34:30,324 When she gets out she'll need a job and somewhere to live. 886 01:34:30,866 --> 01:34:34,911 You can't imagine how frightening the modern world will seem to her. 887 01:34:43,377 --> 01:34:45,004 I have no one else to ask. 888 01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:48,841 If you don't take responsibility for her, 889 01:34:49,425 --> 01:34:51,928 then Hanna has no future at all. 890 01:34:55,306 --> 01:34:56,974 It's kind of you. 891 01:34:57,642 --> 01:34:59,685 Thank you for letting me know. 892 01:35:43,770 --> 01:35:45,438 - You are Michael Berg? - Yes. 893 01:35:45,564 --> 01:35:48,441 - Louisa Brenner. Good morning. - How do you do? 894 01:35:48,984 --> 01:35:51,027 We were expecting you earlier. 895 01:35:51,528 --> 01:35:52,821 I should warn you. 896 01:35:52,946 --> 01:35:56,950 For a long time, Hanna held herself together. She was very purposeful. 897 01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:01,163 In the last few years, she's different, she's let herself go. 898 01:36:04,708 --> 01:36:07,376 I'm taking you straight to the canteen. 899 01:36:08,961 --> 01:36:11,338 They've just finished their lunch. 900 01:36:23,267 --> 01:36:24,685 Table four. 901 01:37:10,688 --> 01:37:12,690 You've grown up, kid. 902 01:37:27,539 --> 01:37:29,374 I've got a friend who's a tailor. 903 01:37:32,544 --> 01:37:33,920 He'll give you a job. 904 01:37:35,922 --> 01:37:37,256 And I've found you somewhere to live. 905 01:37:38,340 --> 01:37:40,884 It's a nice place, quite small, but it's nice. 906 01:37:42,553 --> 01:37:44,388 - You'll like it. - Thank you. 907 01:37:46,807 --> 01:37:48,350 There are various social programs, 908 01:37:49,685 --> 01:37:51,812 cultural staff I can sign you up for. 909 01:37:52,729 --> 01:37:54,565 The public library is very close. 910 01:38:01,113 --> 01:38:02,322 You read a lot? 911 01:38:05,325 --> 01:38:06,785 I prefer being read to. 912 01:38:12,583 --> 01:38:14,585 That's over now, isn't it? 913 01:38:24,844 --> 01:38:26,179 Did you get married? 914 01:38:26,721 --> 01:38:28,806 I did. Yes, I did. 915 01:38:30,224 --> 01:38:31,559 We have a daughter. 916 01:38:32,685 --> 01:38:34,770 I'm not seeing as much of her as I'd like. 917 01:38:35,104 --> 01:38:37,315 I'd like to see a great deal more of her. 918 01:38:40,026 --> 01:38:41,861 The marriage didn't last. 919 01:38:57,585 --> 01:38:59,879 Have you spend a lot of time thinking about the past? 920 01:39:00,546 --> 01:39:01,923 You mean with you? 921 01:39:02,131 --> 01:39:02,924 No. 922 01:39:03,716 --> 01:39:04,634 No. 923 01:39:06,093 --> 01:39:07,512 I didn't mean with me. 924 01:39:16,978 --> 01:39:19,940 Before the trial I never thought about the past. 925 01:39:21,066 --> 01:39:22,776 I never had to. 926 01:39:23,110 --> 01:39:24,194 And now? 927 01:39:26,530 --> 01:39:28,073 What do you feel now? 928 01:39:29,866 --> 01:39:31,952 It doesn't matter what I feel. 929 01:39:33,161 --> 01:39:35,247 It doesn't matter what I think. 930 01:39:37,332 --> 01:39:39,167 The dead are still dead. 931 01:39:46,758 --> 01:39:48,635 I wasn't sure what you had learned. 932 01:39:49,427 --> 01:39:51,805 Well, I have learned, kid. 933 01:39:52,931 --> 01:39:54,974 I've learned to read. 934 01:40:08,904 --> 01:40:10,489 I'll pick you up next week, OK? 935 01:40:19,915 --> 01:40:21,375 That sounds a good plan. 936 01:40:24,378 --> 01:40:27,631 We can do it quietly or we can make a fuss. 937 01:40:28,549 --> 01:40:29,758 Quietly. 938 01:40:32,261 --> 01:40:34,263 OK, quietly. 939 01:40:37,141 --> 01:40:38,726 Quietly. 940 01:40:47,567 --> 01:40:49,027 Take care, kid. 941 01:40:49,235 --> 01:40:51,863 You too. See you next week. 942 01:43:04,367 --> 01:43:06,787 I've come to collect Hanna Schmitz. 943 01:43:12,250 --> 01:43:14,002 Please take a seat. 944 01:43:39,444 --> 01:43:41,071 She didn't pack. 945 01:43:41,988 --> 01:43:44,198 She never intended to leave. 946 01:43:50,287 --> 01:43:52,790 "The talk was that a new face" 947 01:43:53,707 --> 01:43:55,459 "had appeared on the promenade". 948 01:43:57,628 --> 01:43:59,964 "A lady with a little dog". 949 01:44:07,179 --> 01:44:08,681 She left me a message. 950 01:44:10,516 --> 01:44:12,393 A sort of will. 951 01:44:14,979 --> 01:44:17,773 I'll read the bit that concerns you. 952 01:44:25,322 --> 01:44:27,950 "There is money in the old tea tin". 953 01:44:28,409 --> 01:44:30,326 "Give it to Michael Berg". 954 01:44:31,369 --> 01:44:35,957 "He should send it, alongside the 7,000 marks in the bank" 955 01:44:36,374 --> 01:44:39,294 "to the daughter who survived the fire". 956 01:44:40,003 --> 01:44:41,463 "It's for her". 957 01:44:42,130 --> 01:44:45,049 "She should decide what to do with it". 958 01:44:48,553 --> 01:44:51,431 "And tell Michael I said hello". 959 01:45:47,778 --> 01:45:48,862 This way. 960 01:46:10,049 --> 01:46:11,759 - Ms. Mather? - Yes. 961 01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,804 - You're Michael Berg? - Yes. 962 01:46:14,929 --> 01:46:16,347 I was expecting you. 963 01:46:18,182 --> 01:46:19,725 - Please. - Thank you. 964 01:46:22,019 --> 01:46:26,399 So, you must tell me exactly what brings you to the United States. 965 01:46:26,524 --> 01:46:29,569 I was here already, I was at a conference in Boston. 966 01:46:29,694 --> 01:46:30,987 - You are a lawyer? - Yes. 967 01:46:31,154 --> 01:46:33,906 I was intrigued by your letter but I can't say 968 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:35,783 I wholly understood it. 969 01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:37,869 - You attended the trial? - Yes. 970 01:46:37,994 --> 01:46:39,954 Almost 20 years ago. 971 01:46:40,496 --> 01:46:42,290 I was a law student. 972 01:46:42,457 --> 01:46:45,750 I remember you, I remember your mother very clearly. 973 01:46:46,918 --> 01:46:49,921 My mother died in Israel a good many years ago. 974 01:46:52,507 --> 01:46:53,550 I'm sorry. 975 01:46:53,675 --> 01:46:55,010 Go on, please. 976 01:46:57,387 --> 01:46:59,181 Perhaps you heard 977 01:46:59,514 --> 01:47:02,225 Hanna Schmitz recently died. 978 01:47:02,934 --> 01:47:04,144 She killed herself. 979 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:06,938 She was a friend of yours? 980 01:47:08,565 --> 01:47:09,900 A kind of friend. 981 01:47:11,485 --> 01:47:13,445 It's as simple as this. 982 01:47:14,571 --> 01:47:17,949 Hanna was illiterate for the greater part of her life. 983 01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:21,119 Is that an explanation of her behavior? 984 01:47:22,871 --> 01:47:23,747 No. 985 01:47:24,122 --> 01:47:25,791 - Or an excuse? - No. 986 01:47:26,374 --> 01:47:27,834 No. 987 01:47:30,378 --> 01:47:33,839 She taught herself to read when she was in prison. 988 01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:36,217 I sent her tapes. 989 01:47:39,386 --> 01:47:41,639 She had always liked 990 01:47:42,056 --> 01:47:43,349 being read to. 991 01:47:50,314 --> 01:47:52,817 Why don't you start by being honest with me? 992 01:47:52,942 --> 01:47:54,985 At least start that way. 993 01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:58,739 What was the nature of your friendship? 994 01:48:03,702 --> 01:48:06,497 When I was young I had an affair with Hanna. 995 01:48:12,378 --> 01:48:15,506 I'm not sure I can help you, Mr. Berg. 996 01:48:16,757 --> 01:48:18,842 Even if I could, I'm not willing to. 997 01:48:19,008 --> 01:48:21,553 I was almost 16 when I took up with her. 998 01:48:21,678 --> 01:48:23,763 The affair only lasted a summer. 999 01:48:23,930 --> 01:48:24,722 But... 1000 01:48:26,724 --> 01:48:28,268 But, what? 1001 01:48:34,399 --> 01:48:35,567 I see. 1002 01:48:38,361 --> 01:48:41,489 And did Hanna Schmitz acknowledge the effect 1003 01:48:41,614 --> 01:48:43,116 she'd had on your life? 1004 01:48:44,784 --> 01:48:47,245 She had done much worse to other people. 1005 01:48:53,293 --> 01:48:54,794 I've never told anyone. 1006 01:48:59,340 --> 01:49:02,427 People ask all the time what I learned in the camps. 1007 01:49:03,719 --> 01:49:05,262 But the camps weren't therapy. 1008 01:49:07,556 --> 01:49:10,100 What do you think these places were, universities? 1009 01:49:12,019 --> 01:49:14,188 We didn't go there to learn. 1010 01:49:15,397 --> 01:49:18,525 One becomes very clear about these things. 1011 01:49:21,904 --> 01:49:23,363 What are you asking for? 1012 01:49:23,489 --> 01:49:26,784 Forgiveness for her? Or do you just want to feel better yourself? 1013 01:49:27,451 --> 01:49:30,746 My advice: Go to the theater if you want catharsis. 1014 01:49:30,871 --> 01:49:33,332 Please, go to literature. 1015 01:49:33,749 --> 01:49:35,793 Don't go to the camps. 1016 01:49:38,128 --> 01:49:40,255 Nothing comes out of the camps. 1017 01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:43,717 Nothing. 1018 01:49:58,523 --> 01:50:00,024 What she wanted... 1019 01:50:01,192 --> 01:50:03,611 What she wanted was to leave you 1020 01:50:03,945 --> 01:50:05,196 her money. 1021 01:50:05,988 --> 01:50:07,115 I have it with me. 1022 01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,449 To do what? 1023 01:50:08,658 --> 01:50:09,909 I don't know... 1024 01:50:10,660 --> 01:50:12,578 As you think fit. 1025 01:50:23,631 --> 01:50:24,799 Here. 1026 01:50:33,724 --> 01:50:35,183 When I was a little girl, 1027 01:50:35,308 --> 01:50:37,310 I had a tea tin for my treasures. 1028 01:50:38,687 --> 01:50:40,605 Not quite like this, it had 1029 01:50:41,231 --> 01:50:42,941 Cyrillic lettering. 1030 01:50:45,610 --> 01:50:47,112 I took it with me to the camp, 1031 01:50:47,779 --> 01:50:48,864 but it got stolen. 1032 01:50:49,656 --> 01:50:52,284 - What was in it? - Sentimental things. 1033 01:50:52,742 --> 01:50:55,162 A piece of hair from our dogs, 1034 01:50:55,662 --> 01:50:58,248 tickets to the operas my father had taken me to. 1035 01:50:58,582 --> 01:51:00,625 It wasn't stolen for its contents. 1036 01:51:01,084 --> 01:51:02,002 It... 1037 01:51:02,502 --> 01:51:04,004 It was the tin itself 1038 01:51:04,588 --> 01:51:06,298 that was valuable. 1039 01:51:07,507 --> 01:51:09,009 What you could do with it. 1040 01:51:17,517 --> 01:51:19,978 There's nothing I can do with this money. 1041 01:51:20,603 --> 01:51:23,647 If I give it to anything associated with the extermination of the Jews, 1042 01:51:23,773 --> 01:51:25,566 then to me it seems 1043 01:51:26,901 --> 01:51:29,111 like absolution and that's something 1044 01:51:29,236 --> 01:51:31,113 I'm neither willing nor in a position to grant. 1045 01:51:32,156 --> 01:51:36,952 I was thinking maybe an organization to encourage literacy. 1046 01:51:41,457 --> 01:51:42,374 Good. 1047 01:51:43,167 --> 01:51:43,834 Good. 1048 01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:46,921 Do you know if there is a Jewish organization? 1049 01:51:47,046 --> 01:51:48,631 I'd be surprised if there isn't. 1050 01:51:49,006 --> 01:51:51,342 There is a Jewish organization for everything. 1051 01:51:52,384 --> 01:51:55,429 Not that illiteracy is a very Jewish problem. 1052 01:51:57,348 --> 01:51:58,849 Why don't you find out? 1053 01:51:59,475 --> 01:52:00,601 Send them the money. 1054 01:52:16,908 --> 01:52:18,701 Shall I do it in Hanna's name? 1055 01:52:20,703 --> 01:52:22,247 As you think fit. 1056 01:52:27,669 --> 01:52:29,087 I'll keep the tin. 1057 01:52:34,342 --> 01:52:35,510 Thank you. 1058 01:53:28,103 --> 01:53:29,104 Where are we going? 1059 01:53:29,813 --> 01:53:32,107 I thought you liked surprises. 1060 01:53:32,608 --> 01:53:33,609 I do. 1061 01:53:34,193 --> 01:53:35,736 I do like surprises. 1062 01:54:40,215 --> 01:54:42,134 Hanna Schmitz. 1063 01:54:47,139 --> 01:54:48,265 Who was she? 1064 01:54:50,767 --> 01:54:52,811 That's what I wanted to tell you. 1065 01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:57,524 That's why we're here. 1066 01:55:05,782 --> 01:55:06,908 So tell me. 1067 01:55:19,253 --> 01:55:20,963 I was 15. 1068 01:55:23,966 --> 01:55:26,385 I was coming home from school. 1069 01:55:28,596 --> 01:55:30,473 I was feeling ill. 1070 01:55:31,932 --> 01:55:33,976 And a woman helped me. 1071 01:55:34,305 --> 01:56:34,714 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/gxf4 Help other users to choose the best subtitles